New Hero Suggestions

HLWG wrote:

This is a thread for STAT ideas, not bashing names or themes for heros.

Off topic: This is hero suggestion thread not just a stat ideas. Part of giving suggestions is getting feedback on them. Granite the feedback may have been dumb or "not-needed" its still feedback, and he did stay on topic.

H, Excuse me if I'm overstepping my bounds here, But it seems to me that ur trying to "run" these forums i think it'd be best to back off and let the mod's do thier jobs.


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Blood Orc
Hero Skin: Fel Orc
Hero Type: STR melee
Stats and bonus: 29+2.8 str, 24+1.9 agi, 17+2.2 int
Base Armor: 1
Move Speed: 290
Base Attack: 2.3


^^ my first hero idk i kinda blow with stats n what not i just thought a blood orc would look kool

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Ehh, I think H is just getting annoyed with all the "clutter" where 1 outta 2 posts is 1 line of un-needed content. And, well, click on ignacio's stats, and see all posts. 18 of the last 20 have been 1 line of something that the entire world could have done without.

It is good when normal members step up and yell at people for doing that; or everyone thinks it is okay to do; and does it.

If you dislike something, that is fine; come up with a valid argument. Saying, "that is stupid" to an idea, doesn't help, unless the idea really is stupid. (Like blinking to a location and getting vamp aura for 10 seconds, then flying away, after bashing them for 28 seconds)

Anywhooooo; time to look at these heroes...

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Clown
model- Fel Orc Ravager i believe? the one with the poofy hair.
Melee Agi
Str - 18(+2)
Agi- 27(+4)
Int- 25(+3)
Armor- 0
BAT- 2.2
MS- 370

Looks a little too similar to chaos knight. The stats and stuff are alright though; I will put him side by side to chaos knight and compare stats. I might make a few alterations, but otherwise, looks good.

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Teacher:
Str: 18(+1.75)
Agi: 21(+2.5)
Int: 30(+3.5)
Armor:0
BAT:2.3
MS:350

Uhhhh; you gave no hero class; skin, or range...

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Blood Orc
Hero Skin: Fel Orc
Hero Type: STR melee
Stats and bonus: 29+2.8 str, 24+1.9 agi, 17+2.2 int
Base Armor: 1
Move Speed: 290
Base Attack: 2.3

Far too weak, in terms of stat gain and MS. It is like a STR speed demon, minus the speed part. I would sayyyy; 380 ms, 3.2 str gain, 2.5 agi, and a 2.1 BAT would make him pretty decent; but, customize him as you will with roughly the same stat value i gave; or if you like the way i went with that, i can just do that.

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Model - Gul'dan
Ranged Str
Str - 18 (3.0 gain)
Agi - 21 (2.75 gain)
Int - 25 (2.5 gain)
Armor - 1
Range - 500
B.A.T. - 2.6
M.S. - 380
Description - After years of meditation, the Orc has learned to control his lust for blood, and and uses it to kill for sport.
Possible names - Cave-man, Hermit-crab, Old Man River, He Who Does Not Shower.

With the lower-than-normal starting stats; I would suggest either, 5 more total starting stats, +1 armor; or .2 BAT reduction. Take your pick.

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So Model: Maybe like frost demon's? if you cant just copy aa's
Str: 25 (+3)
Agi: 12 (+1.5)
Int: 30 (+3.5)
Armor: 2
BAT: 2.5
MS: 310
Range: 600

This ghost has lived (or rather, dead) longer than your mother. and yes... thats possible. he has gained a lot of knowledge of the arcane arts over his many years, and is ready to put them to use.
possible names. Frostmourne, Dr. Freeze, Frigid Phantom.

For range int, That BAT is far too high. Compare him to archmage, or void walker. He moves a lot slower, gets much less int gain, and has worse agility, with worse BAT. He is like a slower moving and attacking priest, with less stats. With such bad MS, I would suggest a 2.0 BAT; or giving him much more stats in other areas to make up for his bad auto-attack DPS. If you want to keep his bad BAT, I suggest +5 sarting stats, and +2 total stat gain. Thus; making him balanced along the lines that lich is.

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Ogre Warrior (comparable to both Mighty fist and Frost Demon)
Model - Ogre (Tan One Headed)
Melee Str
Str - 34 (5.0 Starting stats 60 total (low)
Agi - 16 (2.5 Stat gain 9 per level (High for Str)
Int - 10 (1.5
Armor - 2 (Average low)
Range Melee
B.A.T 2.2 (High)
M.S. 320 (Low)

Seems like a weaker version of arthas/might fist. Give him something that takes him out of that "lumbering, slow moving, hard hitting, big tanking, cant-casting" melee-STR group. Give him 370 MS; since all his other stats are generally worse than arthas and crypt fiend.

****Gotta take Yumiko to Kinkos to print something out, I will finish the rest when I return.****

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Ogre Magi (comparable to Alchemist and Spirt Walker)
Model - Ogre Magi (Blue 2 headed)
Ranged Int
Str - 28 (3.5 Starting Stats 70 total (Average)
Agi - 14 (2.0 Stat Gain 9 per level (Average for Int)
Int - 28 (3.5
Range 600 (Average if im correct)
Armor - 2 (Average)
B.A.T 2.3 (Average)
M.S. 320 (Low)

I like this one; to better fit the "orge" ness of him... What would you think giving him 100 bonus starting HP, and 10 bonus attack damage; in exchange for .1 BAT?

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Troll Axe-master (comparable to Speed demon and Huntress)
Model - Troll Axe thrower
Ranged Agi
Str - 25 (3.0 (Average) Starting Stats 70 total (Average)
Agi - 25 (3.5 (Average High) Stat Gain 8.0 (Average for Agi)
Int - 10 (1.5 (Low)
Range 400 (Low)
Armor -2 (Average)
B.A.T 2.3 (Average high for Agi)
M.S. 360 (Medium)

Compare him to POTM; POTM is much better. (could be that your base stats only add up to 60) add them up to 70, and give him .5 more gain; and he will be set.



Overall, I think these suggestions are quite good; as it is much better to offer a minor buff to something; rather than trying to nerf it down.

Teacher:
Int-Range(520)
Like Siren, add a book. Or a priest/priestess
Str: 18(+1.75)
Agi: 21(+2.5)
Int: 30(+3.5)
Armor:0
BAT:2.3
MS:350

Ninja
Agi-Melee
Demon hunter w/o weapons. All black
Str: 12(+1)
Agi: 45(+4.5)
Int: 3(+.25)
Armor: 1
BAT: 2.5
MS: 320

Star/Spirit-INT range(750)
White Wisp
Str: 20(+2)
Agi: 18(+1.5)
Int: 29(+3)
Armor: 2
BAT: 2
MS: 370

Spider King-STR melee
Carrion Beetle/Big Spider
Str: 26(+2.5)
Agi: 20(+1.75)
Int:26(+1.75)
Armor: 2

Orc Calvary Leader(agi)
A privileged veteran fighter of orcish decent equipped with extra armor, a speedy mount, and a keen intellect. His experience from past battles has cost him much of strength
Skin: Thrall

Melee

Str: 14 + 1.00

Agi: 27 + 3.25

Int: 28 + 4.00

Armor: 10

Bat: 2.3

MS: 385



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Cryptseer (int)
An evil monster risen from the bowels of Azjol'Nerub. Starts strong but since it is dead it slowly decays in strength as it becomes more efficient on the battle field.

Skin: Crypt Fiend

Ranged 650

Str 32 -.25

Agi 19 +4.25

Int 22 +4.25

Bat 2.25

Armor: 2

MS: 370

Undead King
Str Melee
Str:25(+2.25)
Agi:21(+1.5)
Int:23(+2)
Armor:5
BAT:2
MS: 250

Pissonmyhands wrote:

Orc Calvary Leader(agi)
A privileged veteran fighter of orcish decent equipped with extra armor, a speedy mount, and a keen intellect. His experience from past battles has cost him much of strength
Skin: Thrall

Melee

Str: 14 + 1.00

Agi: 27 + 3.25

Int: 28 + 4.00

Armor: 10

Bat: 2.3

MS: 385

10 armor? i dont see how that is balanced by anything. he has low health, yes. but what if someone gets life bonus? it wouldnt matter. it would be a free 7-8 armor. you may want to think about nerfing it. but if my maths right, he just has an insane amount of armor at the cost of nothing.

yeah; I agree, that hero is insanely OP. Why? All you need is HP, and he is OP in every way. The ability to focus on only 1 stat makes him easy to use for anyone with half a brain; his stats and gain are quite high; high MS... I would give him 2 armor; based on all of his stats. (his agi grants 2 more to start)

Can we get a list of models in use or suggested?

sorry i was looking at something along the lines of the spellbreaker who focuses on int instead of str. i meant that it would end up having (after all of its agi added in ect) the same amount of armor as that hero, just focus on different stats. in addition the fact that it focuses more on int as apposed to agi was put there to keep it from being another chaos knight

Ok 1.Blood Orc (fell orc grunt melee str)
2.Ogre Warrior (Ogre mauler melee str)
3.Fell Orc Raider (fell orc raider melee agi)
4.Pervert (Guldan ranged str)
5.Catapult ( meat wagon ranged str)
6.Troll Axe master (ice troll berserk ranged agi)
7.Apparition (Shade Ranged int)
8.Ogre Magi (stone-maul ogre magi Ranged int)

Have been coded and are ready to add to the game

2 melee int
1melee agi
1ranged agi

Ranged agi
Cardboardio - Treasure Box model
Throws treasure boxes for attack animation

60 str (-0.5 loss)
10 Agi (5.0 gain)
20 int (2.5 gain)
2.0 bat
300 ms
5 armor

Description - The hinges of the box get oiled over time, making it faster; however, the box gets weaker due to rust!

names- boxy, wrath's computer, H's box o' porn.

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Updated post. Edited numbers

First one

Abomination

Melee Int

Stats

MS 390
BAT 2.4

STR 15+3.5
INT 35+5
AGI 20+.5

Climbing out of the pits of doom the Abomination is a patchwork of parts mainly brains and muscles this quick moving lump is dangerous, and is only limited by its tendons falling apart

Second One

Hydra

Ranged Agi

Range 600

Stats

MS 330
BAT 2.2

STR 20 + 2
INT 15 + 3.5
AGI 30 + 2.5

This Hideous Beasts are thought to be dumb, but 3 heads are always smarter than 1. As fast as it is sly the Beast is truly a force to be reckoned with

o sorry H ddin't see your suggestion till i put mine up, but i don't think the -1 base stat idea is very good... to make up for it your hero is gonna have to be super ripped late game in some other way

Third One

Melee Agi

Battle Golem

ok i keep trying to edit that post but nothing is working.......................... idk why it stopped working ill finish that one or if you can delete it ill remake it.

Blonde, the -1 str thing I think is a nice actually actually. Except maybe -1 str is a bit high. Could be maybe -0.50 str per lvl, so at lvl 40 he still has 40 str total. Besides, for the other stat gains, I think its pretty nice. There are no heroes that lose stats and I think this might be a nice idea to play with. It's comparable to the 0.5 agi gain from Medivh. It sucks in the beggining, but you can work around it with items. Same as this, I think. Besides, early game this hero would rock farming wise.

Anyway

Battle Golem

Melee Agi

MS-380
BAT-2.25

Str 40 + 4
Int 10 + 2
Agi 20 + 3

This fierce warrior has been locked away for ages due to his heinous crimes. He has strapped on the armor of his old guards and has stepped in the fray wreaking havoc on his old oppressors.

Final One

Last Melee Int

Blue Dragon Spawn Apprentice

MS- 370
BAT- 2.0

STR-50+1
INT-10+5
AGI-10+3

Once a great warrior from the fields of Poopoo Ca-Caa this lone warrior had fallen to a trap of an evil wizard and transformed. Giving up his warriors training, he works as hard as possible to reverse the spell through magic.

I just realized all the Heroes need names so here we go in the final final post

the Abomination
Abomination
Fatty, Lard-Butt, Territo's Mom (jk on that one), Rotundra

the Hydra
Lernaean Hydra
Triumvirate, Three-Stooges, Trinity

the Box Hero (H's names just suck so here are some better ones) (also use the destructibles model of the crate rather than a treasurebox its more classy)
Cardboardio
Territo's House, Poor Man's Computer, FedEx

the Battle Golem
Iron Maiden
Tungsten, Iron, Platinum

the Dragon Spawn Apprentice (tint this guy brown as hell)
Shit-Lord
SmearStan, Crapola, Mr. ToiletStore

For the Dragonspawn apprentice one he has a shit ton of str on a melee int? what kind of base damage would he have for 2.0 bat? hes basically a high str timmy thats int based.

... not really... have you even played this game before? this hero is built nothing like timmy take a look at the stat gains MS and BAT this hero is nothing like timmy

"Abomination
Fatty, Lard-Butt, Territo's Mom, Rotundra
Melee Int
Stats
MS 390
BAT 2.4
Armor 1
STR 15+3
INT 35+5
AGI 20+1
Climbing out of the pits of doom the Abomination is a patchwork of parts mainly brains and muscles this quick moving lump is dangerous, and is only limited by its tendons falling apart"

Lernaean Hydra
Triumvirate, Three-Stooges, Trinity
Ranged Agi
Range 550
Stats
MS 330
Armor 0
BAT 2.2
STR 20 + 2.5
INT 15 + 3
AGI 27 + 2.5
50 bonus Base HP
This Hideous Beasts are thought to be dumb, but 3 heads are always smarter than 1. As fast as it is sly the Beast is truly a force to be reckoned with

Iron Maiden (battle Golem)
Tungsten, Iron, Platinum
Melee Agi
MS-380
BAT-2.35
Armor 2
Str 36 + 4
Int 12 + 2
Agi 22 + 3
-50 starting HP
This fierce warrior has been locked away for ages due to his heinous crimes. He has strapped on the armor of his old guards and has stepped in the fray wreaking havoc on his old oppressors.

Blue Dragon Spawn Apprentice
Melee int
MS- 370
BAT- 2.0
Armor -1
STR-34+3.25
INT-10+3.25
AGI-10+2
50 bonus HP
.3 slower cast times
Once a great warrior from the fields of Poopoo Ca-Caa this lone warrior had fallen to a trap of an evil wizard and transformed. Giving up his warriors training, he works as hard as possible to reverse the spell through magic.

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Orc Calvary Leader(agi)
A privileged veteran fighter of orcish decent equipped with extra armor, a speedy mount, and a keen intellect. His experience from past battles has cost him much of strength
Skin: Thrall
Melee
Str: 14 + 2.00
Agi: 27 + 3.5
Int: 27 + 3.25
Armor: 3
Bat: 2.4
MS: 380
.5 slower cast times
Damage dice up to 9

Cryptseer (int)
An evil monster risen from the bowels of Azjol'Nerub. Starts strong but since it is dead it slowly decays in strength as it becomes more efficient on the battle field.
Skin: Crypt Fiend
Ranged 450
Str 31 +1.5
Agi 19 +3.25
Int 22 +4.25
Bat 2.3
Armor: 1
MS: 370

**** Going to work; I will edit come more of these heroes tonight; at work! ****

Charge, i updated the post to fix the numbers. The part of being ripped late gzme is the fact thzt he is ranged agi wwith a 2.0 bat and 5 starting armor with z very nice agi gain.